Early Modern Drama · Character Archetypes

LOVED NOT LOVING

in A Play of Love — Heywood, John

Metadata

PlayA Play of Love
AuthorHeywood, John
Year (catalogued)1534
Decade1530s
Speech prefix(es)Loued not louyng. | Louyd not louyng. | Loued not louinge. | Belouyd not louyng. | Loued not louing. | Louyd not louyng
Words2321
Characters11567
Typicality0.28 (cosine to cluster centroid)
TCP idA03179
ClusterCluster 21 — Old fathers & plain counsel

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Nay that would I not be you assured That is as you say but not as I suppose Nor as the truth is, which your self might see By reasons that I could and would disclose Saving that I see such parcyalyte On your part, that we shall never agree Unless you will admit some man indifferent Indifferently to hear us, and so gyve judgement. Nay welcome be you, for we were here before you Nor mine, and as you sew for help to me Like sewt have I to sew for help to you For as much need have I of help as you The case is this, you twain seem in pleasure And we twain in pain which pain does procure By comparison between him and me As great a conflyct which of us twain be In greatest pain, as is between you twain which of you twain in most pleasure does remain wherein we somewhat have here debated And both to tell truth so gredyly grated Upon affection eke to our own side That in conclusion we must needs provide Some such as would and could be indifferent And we both to stand unto that judgement whereupon for lack of a judge in this place we sought many places and yet in this case No man could we meet that medyll will or can Till time that we met with this gentleman whom in like errand for like lack of aid was driven to desire our judgement he said Nothing but right desire I you among I willingly will neither gyve nor take wrong I am beloved not loving whereby I am not in pain but in tormentry Nay there is another man one me as wood As this man on a neither woman is I do desire the same and that we twain May First be harden that I may know my pain Speak what and when so ever it please you Till reason will me, I will not disease you Sir you allege this nay in this mater As though my denial my sewter to love where all or the most pain that to me does move wherein the truth is a contrary plain For though to oft speaking one thing be a pain yet is that one word the full of my hoping To bring his hoping to despair at ending Thus is this nay which you take my most grief Though it be painful yet my most relief But my most pain is all and other thing which though you forget or hide by dyssymylyng I partly showed you, but all I could nor can But masters to you with pain of this man That pain that I compare is partly this I am loved of one whom the truth is I can not love, and so it is with me That from him in manner I never can l And every one word in sewt of his part Nyps through mine ears and rons through my heart His gastfull look so pale that uneath I Dare for mine ears cast toward him and eye And when I do that eye my thought presentyth Straight to my heart and thus my pain augmentyth One tale so oft alas and so importune His exclamations sometime on fortune Some time on himself some time upon me And for that thing that if my death should be Brought Straight in place except I were content To grant the same, yet could I not assent And he sing this yet seasyth not to crave what death could be worse then this life that I have He that is hanged Of delyghtfull will, nay that is not so As you shall perfectly perceive or we go But of those at whose hanging have hangmen by How many have you known hang willingly In this lo your case from our case does vary For you that love where love will take no place your own will is your own leder a plain case And not only uncompelled without alewre But before against her will your sewt you endewre Now sins your will to love did you procure And with that will, you put that love in v e And now that will, by wit seth love such pain As witty will would will love to refrain And you by will that love in eke condition To extynct, may be your own phesicion Except you be a fool or would make me one what sing cowed set a good ground to fit on To make any man think your pain thus strong Making your own salve your own soar thus long your will out weyth your power the ̄ where is your wit I merueyll that ever you will speak it This tale shows my tale perseyued every dell yes Love him nay as I said must I Straight chosen To love him or else my head here to loose I know well I could not my life to save with loving will grant him my love to have well said and put case it as harden now be For you to will to leave her, as for me To love him, yet have you above me a mean To learn you at length to will to leave love clean which mean many thousands of lovers hath brought From right fervent loving to love right nought which long and oft approved mean is absens whereto when you will you may have license which I crave and wish and can not obtain For he will never my presens refrain well sins you have opened in this tale telling The full of your pain for speed to ending I shall in few words such one question disclose As if your answer gyve cause to suppose The hold of the same to be answered at full we need no judgement for yield my self I wum Put case this man loved a woman such one who were in his liking the thing alone And that his love to her were not so myckyll But her fancy toward him were as lyttyll And that she hid her self so day and night That selde time when he might come in her sight And then put case that one to you love did bear A woman that other so ugly were That eke kys of her mouth called you to gybbes fist Or that your fancy abhorred her so at lest That her presens were as sweet to suppose As one should present you in good faith, whereto the case is this That her spytfull presens absent never is Of these two cases if chance should drive you To chosen one, which would you choose tell troth now what you study First case of these twain I put for your part And by the last case appeareth mine own smart If they proceed with this First case of ours Then is our mater undoubtedly yours And if judgement pass with this last case in fine Then is the mater asewredly mine Sins by these cases our parts so do seem That which is most painful your self can not deem. If you now will all circumstance eschew Make this question in these cases our yssew And the pain of these men to abreuyate Set all our other mater as frustrate Then further to abredge your pain Sins this our yssew appeareth thus plain As folk not doubting your consciens nor conning we shall in the same let pass all reasoning yielding to your judgement the hold of my part I would you began Gone you but he will come again anon Then somewhat payneful as well said say I Displeasure and pain be things jointly anex For as it is dyspleasaunt in pain to be So it is painful in displeasure to be vexed Thus by displeasure in pain you confess me whereby sins you partly of my pain do see In my further pain I shall now declare That pain by which with your pain I compare. Small were the quantity of my painful smerte if his iangelynge pierced no further then mine erys But through mine erys directly to mine heart percyth his words even like as many sperys By which I have spent so many and such terys That were they all read as they be all White The blood of my heart had be gone or this quite And almost in case as though it were gone Am I except his sewt take end shortly For it does like me even like as one Should offer me service most humbly with and axe in his hand, continually Beseeching me gently that this might be sped To grant him my good will to strike of my head I allege for general this one similitude Avoiding rehersale of pains particular To abreueate the time and to exclude Surplusage of words in this our mater By which ensample if you consider Rightly my case at lest wise you may see My pain as painful as your pain can be. And yet for shorter end put case that your pain were oft times more sharp and soar in degree Then mine is at any time yet will I prove plain My pain at length sufficient to match you which proof to be true your self shall agree if your affection in that I shall resyght May suffer your reason to understand right you stand in pleasure having your love in sight And in her absens hope of sight again Keepeth most times possession of some delight Thus have you oft times some way ease of pain And I never no way for when I do remain In his presens, in deadly pain I solorne And absent, half dead in fear of his return Sins presens nor absens absenteth my pain But always the same to me is present And that by presens and hope of presens again There does appear Much of your time spent Out of pain, me think this consequent That my pain may well by mean of the length Compare with your shorter pain of more strength I hold me content the same to condyscende Please it you to set forth and I shall attend. With right good will sir, and sure I suppose Their parts in few words mate come to point well The two examples which he did disclose All errors or doubts do clearly expel The estate of a tre his estate does tell And of the Horse his tale well understand Declareth as well his case now in hand For as nothing can please or displease a tre By ani pleasure or displeasue feeling Nor never bring a tre discontent to be So Like case to him not loved nor loving Love can no way bring pleasing or displeasing Live women, die women, ink women, or swim, In all he content, for all is one to him And as a horse hath mani painful orneis A lover best loved hath pains in Like wise As here hath appeared by sundry weys which shows his case in wurst partly to rise But then as the horse feeleth pleasure in size At night in the stable above the tre So feeleth he some pleasure as far above you In some case he feeleth much more pleasure then he And in some case he feeleth even as muchelesse Between the more and the less it seemeth to me That between their pleasures no choice is to guess Wherefore I give judgement in short process Set the tone pleasure euiu to the tother Sir as touching those words of comparison which you have said and would seem to veryfye If it may please you to stand thereupon Hearing and answering me patiently I doubt not by the same incontynently your self to see by words that shall ensue The contrary of your words verified for true. That reason perceived and received for troth From proper comparison should clear confound me Between pain & no pain, no such comparison growth Then or I can on comparison ground me To prove my case painful you have First bound me To which sins you drive me by your denial Mark what ensueth before further trial. I say I am loved of a certain man whom for no sewt I can favour again And that have I told him sins his sewt began A thousand times but every time in vain For never seizeth his tongue to complain And ever one tale which I never can flee For ever in manner where I am is he. Now if you to here one thing every where Contrary to your appetite should be led were it but a mouse lo should peep in your ere Or always to harp on a crust of bred How could you like such harping at your head And I in Like rate, yielding unto you twain Hearty thanks for this your undeserved pain Affection unbridled may make us all think That eke of us hath done other wrong But where reason takes place it can not sink Sins cause to be percial here is none us among That one head that would think his own wit so strong That on his judges he might judgement devise what judge in so judging could judge him wise well sins you pretend to be confyrmable To reason, in avoiding circumstance Briefly by reason I shall the truth advance. you be a lover no whyt loved again And I am loved of whom I love nothing Then standyth our question between these twain Of loving not loved, or loved not loving which is the case most painful in suffering whereto I say that the most pain does move To those beloved of whom they can not love